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Hi,
If you haven't seen it yet, there are lots of polemics against transpeople and essays defending trans-exclusive women-only spaces at www.questioningtransgender.org. This new site is titled "Questioning Trans Politics" and the essays are written by self-identified radical feminists.
Perhaps the material there can help to jump-start discussions here? Someone else first though please -- the essays are pretty disheartening, for me anyway.
Best wishes,
If you haven't seen it yet, there are lots of polemics against transpeople and essays defending trans-exclusive women-only spaces at www.questioningtransgender.org. This new site is titled "Questioning Trans Politics" and the essays are written by self-identified radical feminists.
Perhaps the material there can help to jump-start discussions here? Someone else first though please -- the essays are pretty disheartening, for me anyway.
Best wishes,
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Re: www.questioningtransgender.org
Sat, April 9, 2005 - 11:48 PMOh my god. I can't even read this thing.
>>--They include the insistence that transgender and transsexual individuals be served by organizations designed by and for women without regard for the concerns, desires, and interests of the women involved<<
They can't very well use men's recources, can they?
>>--They undermine our ability to understand that the gender classes of men and women are socially created;<<
I would think that they are the very proof that gender classes do not work.
>>--They deny or ignore the social, economic, and power differentials between these two classes that amount to the oppression and domination of one over the other.<<
How?
>>--They fail to address the significant problems of male power and male violence across the world, including violence against women as well as violence against transgender people.<<
I thought these guys didn't like gender, now they are saying all the problems in the world are because of males? And how do transexuals ignore violence against trangendered people?
To me, I think it is the ultimate freedom in life to be able to decide and find out ones own gender (the face we want others to see.) To me I feel genderless, but my preferance would probably be to be seen as masculine, because it sits well with me. Doesn't that proove that gender is socially constructed? -
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Re: www.questioningtransgender.org
Sat, April 9, 2005 - 11:49 PMOne last thing. I don't hate women.
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Re: www.questioningtransgender.org
Wed, April 13, 2005 - 2:37 PMSince I don't really have the time or store of positive mental health now to wade through these piece by frustrating piece, I'm going to generalize about these essays, probably unfairly, .
Many of these essays seem to be taking an uncharitable and unsophisticated reading of Butler (that gender/sex is 'only' performance and that we ought to play with these categories, in a sort of blithe, socially-naive way) and then collapsing all transgender politics into this reading. Conveniently, they pretty much ignore Butler's, Yegenoglu's, Spivak's, Halberstam's, etc's arguments against universal categories, thinking apparently that if they hold that their universal conception of 'woman' is socially constructed, that it'll resist the common problems associated with any naturalized universal conception, namely that these take the experiences of some women as the norm for all women and therefore repeat the hierarchizing, marginalizing logic that IS colonial heteropatriarchy. For instance, the cover article claims that all women, regardless of their particular communities, are socially constructed to be subordinate to men. But if feminism succeeds, and this subordination is eliminated, will women then cease to exist? And if a particular person hasn't been socially constructed to be subordinate to men, say as part of incremental feminist progress, is that person necessarily not a woman? Will that person be kicked out of womyn's space?
The essay that redefines MTF's as MTC(onstructed)F's especially bothers me. Other descriptions of MTF's and ill-informed accounts of our experiences and motivations and lives are also epistemologically arrogant and violent. They start of assuming we're *really* men and are motivated by a patriarchic desire to unveil women's space. Apparently, they feel privileged enough to define my subjectivity, to perform that god-awful, trite, phallocentric teleportation trick that moves their gaze into my body, and displaces, and obliterates, my subjectivity. Really, I've never claimed to know what a genetic woman *really* feels, if there is such a common experience.
Also, if there is any truth in the stereotype of MTF's as too conventionally femme, why don't they have equal concern with other stereotypically false-consciousness-ridden folks, e.g., 50+ y.o. women, 13 y.o. girls, etc.
The fact is, I'm doomed, perpetually.
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